Palestinian President Abbas Travels to Turkey to Honor Terrorists

Earlier this week, Palestinian Authority President, Mahmoud Abbas (the so-called moderate and partner for peace), travelled all the way to Turkey to meet with the terrorists banished there as part of the Gilad Shalit Swap Deal. One of the terrorists he met with was Amna Muna (Mona Juad Awana) – a terrorist who enticed a 16 year old Israeli teenager under false pretence and lured him to his execution – he was shot 15 times at close range. Muna is refered to by Israel’s Prime Minister’s office as Terrorist Temptress and her actions of deliberately seducing and planning the death of Ofir Rahum should have earned her more than nine years in jail.

But it doesn’t seem like Abbas shares this notion. In fact, not only has he travelled to Turkey especially just to meet terrorists, but in stand of being horrified by their actions, instead of condemning it, calling it for the repugnant immoral despicable act that it is, he made efforts to honor the terrorists. To treat them with respect. Almost admiration. Promising, as he always does, to free all the heinous killers captured and trialed by Israel.

Freed terrorists Amna Muna and Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, in their meeting this week in Turkey

This of course is not news. Abbas is building the West Bank (seeing as he has no control over the Gaza Strip in over four years now) as a future terror-honoring (and somewhat worshipping) state. Streets and squares are named to honor the most heinous of killers. Freeing killers is one of his favorites subjects when talking about the Palestinian cause (of course, should Israel ever think of releasing Jewish people who attacked Palestinians he would be outraged!) and both himself and his government refused to condemn the Fogel Family Massacare last March (where two Palestinian knived five members of the same family, including a 4 months old baby), and simply called it “unhelpful to the Palestinian cause today”.

Abbas, the so-called partner for peace, is also investing alot of money in building the freed terrorists homes in the West Bank. The same Abbas who threatens he has no money and if the United States and Israel would withhold grants, donations and transfers of taxes, his faction would fall completely apart.

Amna Muna landing in Turkey after being released in the Gilad Shalit swap deal.
Amna Muna landing in Turkey after being released in the Gilad Shalit swap deal.

Muna herself was originally supposed to be banished to the Gaza Strip, instead of returning to her home in the West Bank. But at the last minute, after crossing the border to Egypt, she begged the Red Cross to not let her be sent to the Gaza Strip and refused to get on the bus. A tortuer of Hamas female prisoners in Israeli prisons, and a secular woman about to enter an extreme Islamic regime, she asked to be banished abroad rather than the Gaza Strip – which is another testimony to the fact that there lives two completely seperate Palestinian entities in the region (one in the strip and one in the west bank). Muna was finally deported to Turkey, where she lives now. As she arrived, she told the press that (in parapharsing:) “Inshallah, we’ll return to the ways of resistance and help the land of Palestine”.

What about her act was helpful to anyone, especially a Palestinian state, and what about her act shows resistance is beyond me? But twisted logic is probably reserved to the truely twisted.

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12 Responses to “Palestinian President Abbas Travels to Turkey to Honor Terrorists”

  1. BeliefInJustice Says:

    All too true. And for God’s sake can someone please report on what Abbas actually said to her (and she to him) in their “private meeting”???

    • Ori Lentzitzky Says:

      Hey, Thanks for your reply. Personally, it doesn’t really matter what was said (I haven’t found a report of it yet), but the gesture itself of meeting with her and the other terrorists, the body language, the photo together, it all is too much. It speaks louder than any words that could have been said inside these meetings. Even if Abbas was only meeting them since he was already in Turkey for meeting officals, this meeting is simply rude and upsetting to say the least.

      • BeliefInJustice Says:

        I hear that. At the same time, it would make a great deal of difference to me if Abbas said to her “how did it feel to kill a Jew”? On the other hand, if he told her “have you learned now that violence is not the answer” it would also make a difference. Finally, not talking about her crime at all and just talking about the weather (or the “resistance”)would be pretty much as bad as the first scenario.

      • Ori Lentzitzky Says:

        In that case, I would direct you to everything Abbas said about the terrorists freed in these acts, including refering to the mastermind behind the Hotel Park bombing (that killed 30 Israelis on Passover Eve as they were having family holiday dinners). I would direct you to his speech before the UN. I would direct you to his actions (building homes for the terrorists, naming streets after them etc) and have you fill in the blanks, regarding what was actually said in the meeting.

  2. ordergood Says:

    Hello from the Palestinian side,

    I’m going to be very honest with you Ori, what you posted was somewhat exaggerated yet it was mostly true…but is that the whole story? the people here are not right i admit. as a practicing Muslim i am sometimes unfamiliar with what they called Islam and their manors??forget about it, don’t get me started…but what drove them to this? does violence, poverty, lousy educational system and a crippling occupation have anything to do with this. did you know that when you enter college you’re invited to join jihad groups and in return they will pay your college tuition. for someone with no one to pay his tuition and a grudge against unjust occupation what is he going to do? i know Israelis have seen their share of violence but at least they don’t walk in the streets alongside the shit they flushed. they may sound like stupid excuses but its the reality of the human culture and until we learn to practice Islam the correct way(you would know what i mean if you study it) and until Israel learns what goes on behind the wall of segregation, we will just act out what we see. attached below is a brilliant example.


    happy Hanukkah

    • Ori Lentzitzky Says:

      Hi there, thank you for your comment. I really want to hear from the other side as well, I believe dialogue in this matter in most important.

      I have a big issue with what you stated and it stems from the very core of this conflict – Israel is not the sole entity to be blamed for everything. It simply isn’t. You might want to call the occupation crippling, but the fact is, Palestinians under Israel’s “power” are not worst (if not a whole lot better) than those living in other Arab countries, such as Syria and Lebanon. Yet their entire anger is directed towards Israel.

      I wrote in a post yesterday that if you want to see peace and a Palestinian state, the answer is not to be Anti-Israeli, but Anti-Palestinian-Leadership. The fact remains that Israel is simply an easy target. I have never seen a Palestinian taking responsibility for way things ended up, nor an Arab leader around the world. Israel did not create this on her own.

      There have been numerous times where a state of Palestine could have been formed to live in peace next to Israel. All of those times did not come to fruition and many of those incidents are due to a Palestinian refusal. Refusal I believe stems from the fact that hatred (and let’s be honest – complete distortions of what really happened over 60 years ago, as evidented by Abbas’ article in the New York Times, not to mention his speech in the UN) cannot be wiped. I cannot see any Palestinian leader going back to the Palestinian people and saying “sorry we sent your kids to blow up and everything, but we’re not going to be flooding Israel with millions of you”. I cannot see any country anywhere around the world, including Israel, allowing this fictitious “Right of Return”, yet I see Abbas promising so-called refugees in Lebanon just August that they will return to their homes inside Israel and I see those marches of kids with keys that are completely ridicolous and only serve to magnify and perpetuate the hatred and the distortion. Detaching that from the facts of reality is way too convient.

      And as for the jihad and what you referred to as “the segregation wall”, you’re once again sticking to one side. I appreciate the difficulty of the YouTube videos you’ve attached, but come on – the wall was only put up in 2002 after a string of suicide bombing. In fact, most of what the Palestinians have to complain about have roots in their or their leaders own actions (the “kidnappers” of Gaza – Hamas- are a great example as to how a leadership in torturing its’ population, forcing them live in a constant state of war and danger with Israel). It’s once again convient to talk about the situation today, but you can’t take what led to it out of the equation. We’re talking about over 60 years of terror. The terrorists from Gaza who inflitrated in the 50s, the PLO itself that was created long before an occupation and attempted its’ first official terror attack two years before any kind of occupation, not to mention the intesity of the terror as the years grew. Even after Israel made countless acts to bridge the gaps, it was always slapped in the face. The Oslo Accords and the Kemp David failout led to worst rounds of bloodshed ever seen in this conflict. That brought the wall. You can blame Israel all you’d like, but like always – it takes two to tango, and in this conflict it’s a crowded dancefloor.

      At the end of the day, the difference between Israelis and Palestinians (I can talk about the majority of Israeli people and what I percieve Palestinian leadership’s view to be) is that they don’t seek a mutual goal to a peace settlement – Israel wants to end the conflict and demands and view a Palestinian state as a means to an end, a product of said result while the Palestinians [leadership] want a Palestinian state as the result. There’s a huge difference, not to mention a gap, between the two.

      I hope to hear from the other side again, and more,
      Ori

    • BeliefInJustice Says:

      It’s an important video that you posted, OrderGood. But as the video makes clear, Israel is punishing this soldier who killed an innocent person. Punishments are few an far between on the other side. It’s hard not to get riled up about this issue but I try extremely hard not to. To that end, let me know what you think about the following: I think we need to go beyond the idea that “human nature” will inevitably lead to violent crime (e.g., terrorism). “Human nature” can also be blamed for the acts of the ultrareligious settlers in the West Bank who believe that everyone (except God) is against them and therefore their acts (against Muslims and against Israeli soldiers) are justified. This may be “understandable” in some philosophic stance, but it is still wrong. In the same way, Arab terrorists need to be told — by the Arab world — that what they are doing is unequivocally wrong, period. That’s why I’ve started an initiative to re-arrest convicted terrorists who were released for Gilad Shalit. You can read about it here: http://beliefinjustice.wordpress.com/ and if you are so inclined sign my petition, here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/109/762/810/.
      Just to be clear, I’m not saying Israel is always in the right, and I am all for initiatives to decrease poverty, and, ultimately, for a two-state solution. But we have to work on multiple fronts. I hope you don’t mind if I paraphrase the late Yitzhak Rabin, who I believe should speak for all of us: “We should negotiate with our adversaries as though there is no violence, AND we should fight violent crime as if there were no negotiations.”

  3. ordergood Says:

    Hello Ori,

    I realize that before Israels occupation, Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Jews but mostly Arab farmers. Slowly from the early 30s to the mid 40s these Arab farmers began selling their lands because of poverty from past instability to Arab capitalists and leaders who then sold them to Jewish buyers. Most Palestinians don’t deny this fact. If you think that I or most of the Palestinians stand behind the Arab leaders then you’re mistaken. Their greed and self-exaltation have brought upon on us more misery than Israel will ever do. With so much international aid pouring in, many groups in Palestine formed claiming to fight for the Palestinian right when in fact they are just looking for a piece of the pie.

    After the Jews migrated to Palestine they declared it Israel and they were no longer land owners but rather country men. Areas that were purchased by Jews were taken by force (because they met resistance) along with some that weren’t purchased after the inhabitants were forced to flee. Lands that were not claimed became the lands of the state of Israel and nomads who lived on lands with no clear documentation were considered living on Israeli lands even though they have been living their for decades. The many attempted peace offering from Israel were generous and tempting on paper but in reality bogus. Most illegal settlements (as declared by the UN) were not removed as agreed and road blocks were kept in place. moreover the deal was made with the Fatah movement and other groups felt they were not confined to any agreement so the aggression from them continued.

    As for Gaza I honestly don’t think that what they do is considered terrorism. Blocked off from the world and constantly bombarded with missiles, all they can do is fight back with homemade rockets.
    Their story is much bigger than what you and I think.

    In addition to all of that their is resentment towards Jews in general for disobeying Allah and disbelieving his messengers. Allah says in the Koran “And when there came to them a Book (the Jews) from Allah (the Koran) confirming that which was with them (torah which Allah sent before with Moses)- although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved – but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized (the foretold arrival of the messenger Mohamed in the Torah), they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers.”

    *if you are interested in finding muhammed in the Torah you can follow this link.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7SFrJdZe1k (3rd minute)

    • Ori Lentzitzky Says:

      I’m glad to hear from you again, Ordergood. In full discolure, I’d say I haven’t watched the YouTube video and didn’t really pay much attention to the last paragraph – I can’t fight what believe choose to believe, in any religion, and they all seem to have some common denominator that has nothing to with logic. Sorry.

      I have a problem with the way you phrase historic events – It both completely ignores large portions of it and it’s phrased in somewhat of a nice manner but covers a lot of the truth in the process. What about all the attacks on the Jews? What about them who had to flee their homes? From the way you phrase, you might not think this was a state of war where both parties were less than angelic. And for the record, there were no “Jews who migrated to Palestine and declare it Israel” – Two foriegn entities conqured the region. Just like many before it. And they did not conquer a country, but parts of an Empire. Parts of a region that for years was passed on from one ruling entity to the next. By the time the UK and France took the region from the Ottoman Empire, Jews were already a huge part of a growing global movement that sought to end Colonialism and further independence. The years that followed were bloody to and because of both sides. And as far as the “forced to flee” part goes – The Arabs started a war. Plain and simple. And again, they weren’t the only ones who were forced to flee, as i’ve said before. It seems funny that you would point out the UN has declared the settlements illegal, but while you’re choosing to take one thing from the UN, you’re completely forgetting that the UN passed a decision to divide the land (after the initial division made by Britain that formed Jordan – something I’v never heard a Palestinian leader mention as part of “the original Palestine”) and the Arabs rejected it (while the Jews celebrated it) and launched a war. I don’t recall any other war or conflict around the world and in its’ history, where one side rejects a plan, opens a war, looses that war and still gets claim over what it rejected. Except for this conflict. Except in this war.

      Personally, I don’t like to take the UN as a point of reference to anything, but given that you come from the other side, I understand what you perfer that platform to quote from. However, the deal made by Israel were not just generous on paper. He who seeks to refuse it, finds the disadvantages. But they were plenty to both sides. Moreover, Ehud Olmert’s proposal were more than generous, more than will be offered again probably, and they were too rejected (or rather unanswered for three months). In reality, there could have been a Palestine many years ago. There could have been a Palestine over a decade or even over two years ago. But for some reason it seems your leaders (which is who I truly have a problen with – they’ve remained virtually unchanged throughout many different Israeli government) find it easier to complain about the occupation and rake a political fortune worldwide on it, than actually work towards ending it. Because that would mean they’d have to make painful concessions too. Not just Israel (who offered to keep only 3-5% of the West Bank and offer land in return, maybe not in a 1:1 ratio, but still a signficant amount, including expanding the Gaza Strip’s territory, which if you ask me is more than generous seeing as it was EGYPT’s territory to begin with). And personally, I believe the concession the Palestinians would have to make are much greater than the ones Israel would have to. Because they’re not matrialstic. To end this conflict requires an understanding and an acceptance that there will be no “right” of return and the hatred that can be seen so vividly by many, especially in positions of power, must be uprooted. That is one tall order.

      One more thing – Israel has been negotiating with the PLO, which is supposed to be the represenative of all Palestinians. If you have a problem selecting who most represents you, then a peace agreement and an end to this conflict is truly a work of fiction.

      And as for Gaza – A. That’s bullshit. B. Let me remind you that Gaza was handed down in 2005. Unilaterly. Israel asked nothing in return. It simply uprooted almost 10,000 settlers, took out all the soldiers and handed the PA the keys. Yet rockets continued to be fired. Intesified even. The blockade didn’t come Gilad Shalit’s cross-border abduction and the violent coup of Hamas in 2007. The naval blockade was only imposed on January 2009, four years after Israel’s withdrew from Gaza. The truth is, and I’m sorry if you can’t see it, in stead of trying to live in peace with Israel and allow future cooperation and peace, with a government that truly sought it out back there, Gaza was a tool in the hands of extremists who choose not peace, but violence and bloodshed. War upon all of Gaza’s civlians. There was a choice. From the second Israel withdrew there was a clear choice. Whoever ruled it chose to continue firing rockets. To continue war and targeting of innocents. I’m sorry, I really truly am, that the wrong choice was made. That it seems that never a choice for peace is made. Truly sorry.

      • ordergood Says:

        wow you wrote a lot. I appreciate and envy your passion. Its a good thing I’m unemployed or else I would have no time :).

        I’m not sure what else to write and we can go back and forth forever without fully agreeing (not to mention it would take away time from job searching). My initial intentions were to give you a brief view from the other side which is what you wanted in the first place. To conclude I’ll just quote what you wrote earlier, “it takes two to tango.” In the end you and I are victims of the ruling systems and there is so much that we don’t know that it could refine both of our opinions if we knew it.

        Peace (if possible)

        Humzah from Hebron.

      • Ori Lentzitzky Says:

        Yeah, i believe you concluded with the most important message of all – peace (if possible 😉 )

        Thanks for your input, and i would like to hear from the other side as well. Just we’re clear (and I think you got it but just to be sure) – my grieveness are with leaders, not the people themselves (mostly).

        So yeah – in great hopes for peace,
        Ori

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